Talk:Malay/@comment-25865593-20170111015120/@comment-25865593-20170111172807

The best way to deal with the Malay, is rush them in the beginning they are really vulnerable to a speed attack.

Obviously his you leave them to make a boom in maps with enough water, you are destiny to fail in the same way that the Werhmacht in the eastern front in WWII.

And like I said before, all depends in the map, the resource you need and the units that you can do. Some excellents units and civs bonus to deal with them are:

The Byzantine (both in land and sea) with the Cats, cut-down their infantry like butter, they cheap Halberdiers and Camels will deal against the elephants and their Fast Fireships with Galleons and Cannon Galleons are superior to the Malay's navy.

The Japaneses with their fast-attack infantry can deal with their infantry and cavalry as well. I think the full upgrade Samurai can kill a Karambit Warrior in 1 or 2 hit, I need to test him.

The Goths flood of infantry and rush can be devastating to them.

The Celts Siege Units, expecially the Skorpions.

The Aztecs with Jaguars and pikemen.

The Korean's Siege Onager.

The Slavic Infantry with Druzhina and their cheap Siege.

The Italians use less resources when advancing through ages, have cheaper naval techs and gunpowder units like cannon galleons.

And more. So you have to find the way to defeat them by knowing the map, your civs bonus and unique techs and the resource that you have under control.