Talk:Bearded Axe/@comment-2405:204:5706:E674:4504:797F:460E:FBE3-20180822042710/@comment-2405:204:5102:4D8D:8511:6892:B728:FECC-20180825144347

yeah but Pavise affects ALL foot archers wheras B axe affects only one unit. And I havent even compared to Farimba, Manipur Cav and Garland wars etc - more value per resource expense.

Newer Civs have Shotels and Arambai which are > or = 20 Attack -> This kinda tells u that Game Devs are willing to push the so called 'game balance' so I'm not sure why they haven't relooked the Axemen. Maybe an attack of 14 to 16 would make them worthwhile to build (even with the current slow reload time), otherwise Halbs are a good enough replacement!

What is even more tragic (for Axemen) is that they introduced Arson for all Civs so that minor bonus they had vs Bldg has also been cancelled implicitly. Might as well go Halbs for near equal Bldg damage. This is  similar to how they introduced Bloodlines for everyone and implicitly killed the Franks' Civ bonus.

The least they could do was make  B Axe cheaper for what you get especially because Axemen work only when massed (upwards of 5 which is 125G) - a single axeman has no value/purpose AT ALL (similar to the Genoese Cross Bow - which is why I compared their U techs to check if Game Devs have given units [that work ONLY when massed ] the consideration they need)