Talk:Pikeman (Age of Empires II)/@comment-83.134.167.201-20190424210138/@comment-65.28.183.104-20190709102835

Firstly I posted my calculations in the wrong place here, secondly I should have mentioned prior to blacksmith upgrades as well. But anyway, I find it ironic that they deal more damage to Ballista Elephants than to War Elephants, given the latter have twice the health of the former, and given the latter don't take bonus damage from anti-siege units.

As for the best pikemen, it depends on what you mean. If you mean civs that can't upgrade beyond pikemen, then the Aztecs, Malians and Vikings would be all top tier. If you meant 'pikeman' as 'spearman line', then things change. The Burmese, Goths and Japanese all have good spearman line units, as do the Slavs and Byzantines.