Talk:Holy Roman Emperor/@comment-44657718-20200127214846

Turtling is a good way to get the DE achievement for not getting the relics until you kill everyone. However, immediately build a market and send your scout to the Cumans. Kill Bohemia's TC and villagers. Focus Onagers on the TC and the archers on the stragglers. They shouldn't have much in the way of troops. If they do, kite them. Then immediately go for Austria. Destroy their TC too but avoid the castle. They aren't castle age so it's just a thicc turret. If you destroy their TC and workers they are out of the game for good. Even if they don't resign, they are too crippled to be a threat. While you're doing this, get workers on stone and build some walls and gates around the shallows to your island. Put your onagers on each gate on stand ground.They'll pelt all the early attackers with ease, eventually get some turrets up there too and you'll be good. None of the enemy can get much in the way of siege equipment. At most, rams and scorpions which will either die from your onagers, or from the mess of defenses you should have by then. Hope this helps! Credit to NameKiankai for giving me the idea.