Talk:The Dai Viet Uprising/@comment-27263122-20180414062918/@comment-2001:E68:5444:35B6:2C83:5BD9:D00B:F8D9-20181222193153

Elephants and scorpions is the way to go, we aren't Khmer but it doesn't matter. The scorpions finish off the mobs in record time, while you can bait them closer with elephants or just use the elephants to attack.

You can finish the side quest for the monks, provided you beat the Ming first (both Mings). I did that after wiping blue completely off the map and waiting for the last village (for completion's sake).

Also, Vietnamese Battle Eles are way better than knights, they have a lot more HP, and can stall the siege indefinitely. You aren't going to run around with knights anyway, not with all the chu-ko-nu on the map. A single elephant, a single villager, three mangonels and a castle are all you need in each base. When the attack gets heavy spam units from your stables / siege workshop you build in the city. My allies held up pretty OK, barely losing any buildings even in the timeline where I fought (and eventually beat) Ming directly. In the timeline where I focused on liberating villagers, Ming only managed to break the first layer of walls.