Talk:Goths/@comment-69.126.174.83-20110626222458/@comment-80.57.58.102-20170108111006

Byzantines have cheaper counters so id say they are better with defending with units, until the late imperial age, when they have good counters for archers and cav, can make units super fast, after researching perfusion, and get a really good price reduction on these units. Sure goths make spears faster early on, but theyre more expensive except in imperial age and they dont have a bonus for a unit that counters archers unlike the Byzantines, so really the Byzantines are more flexible against rushes atleast early on. In imperial age the fact that the Goths get equally cheap spearline units and anti-archer huskarls at barracks which are also created really fast makes them better. But you still need to survive til imperial so really as a goth you need to take advantage of your offensive boni, a bit like a hun player, and keep the pressure on the opponent.