Talk:Dutch/@comment-2001:56A:F296:BA00:3D98:8C2D:4538:8C75-20180915020139

Dutch is such a powerful civ to go up against after the 9-10 minute mark and should never be allowed to boom freely if possible. I have heard so much about how terrible dutch is in treaty with a "weak" eco but they are kings of the 20min treaty (16 minute imperial without any crates &vill shipments is very easy to pull off) and on a water map with lots of whales are absolutely able to stand up in 40 minute treaty. 50 villagers, 10 banks, 6-10 whales full to capacity and 2 factories. You think you can compete with that eco? Basically best skirms in the game alongside ruyters en masse and heavy cannons or horse artillery maybe those monster halberdiers or even grenadiers (you have the populaton slots, why not?)... anyone who says dutch units are weak or average hasnt had 100 ruyters and 4 heavy cannon to try to deal with. Always fight with numbers but dont feel like you have to constantly be at 200 pop late game and you will be more than fine keeping up eco wise against most civs late game.