Talk:Recurve Bow/@comment-73.48.156.54-20171002234343/@comment-61.6.239.138-20181113025057

The Magyars have easy access to counter archers. First, they have cheaper fully upgraded Scout(a trash unit), let's not forget they also have one of the best trash units as their UUs. They also have fully upgraded skirmishers and onagers with siege engineers.

Ever since the nerf hits the Mangudai where they now have a delay frame of 5 when attacking, this pretty much destroys the hit and run strategy we used to love when using the Mangudai and also the Mameluks especially against a unit that has a faster movement speed than the Mangudai (both Hussar & Magyar Huszar with 1.5 speed vs the Mangudai with 1.45 speed).

The Magyar Huszar is better at countering siege units more than the Mangudai cos they deal melee dmg instead of piercing dmg.