Talk:Recurve Bow/@comment-65.28.183.104-20190619014859

Contrary to many comments on here, this tech is not OP. It is of roughly equal value in Cavalry Archer fights as Sipahi is for the Turks, thus making those two civilizations possess the best Cavalry Archers.

Compared to the Turks, Magyar Cavalry Archers deal an additional 1 point of damage (for 12 vs 11) and have 1 extra range (for 8 vs 7). Assuming that the extra range allows the Magyar Heavy Cavalry Archer to get the first shot in, it would take them 17 hits to kill a Turkish Cavalry Archer with all upgrades (100/6) while it would take the Turkish Cavalry Archer 16 hits to kill their Magyar counterpart (80/5), resulting in both slaying each other with their final shot.  In both cases the damage was reduced by 6 given full Archer Armor upgrades and Parthian Tactics. If the Magyar Cavalry Archer does not get the first shot in, it will be defeated by its Turkish counterpart.

Regarding Mangaudi, both Magyar and Turkish Heavy Cavalry Archers defeat them in one-on-one fights. Against a Magyar Heavy Cavalry Archer, the Manguadi would deal 6 damage per hit while taking 8 damage per hit. However, the Manguadi attacks just over 25% faster when all is said and done, so it fires five shots for every four shots fired by the Magyar Heavy Cavalry Archer. This results in 30 damage by the Elite Manguadi for every 32 damage from the Magyar Heavy Cavalry Archer, and this is prior to factoring the extra range into play. Given the Magyar Heavy Cavalry Archer is likely to get the first shot in due to the 1 aditional range it wins against the Elite Manguadi.

Even going beyond the concept of cavalry archer duels, the Turks have durability, the Mongols have rate-of-fire, the Saracens have raiding potential with their bonus damage vs buildings while the Huns have cheaper troops for both rushing and replacement.