Talk:Malay/@comment-25865593-20170111015120

I don't find them so OP or the need to be nerfed. Like in all AOE games all the civs have is strength and weakness that are reflected on the map, the resources that need to his army or the type of units that can train mostly in the battle.

The Malay in maps with a lot of water have a strong advantage in defense and economy, but nothing more. They warship don't have any civ bonus by himself and only can have it Allied with a Team Bonus. They Harbor are strong against civs that can't build Cannon Galleon and nothing more.

In Land they are really terrible in long games. They cavalry is the most weak, yeah their elephant are cheaper but the aren't so useful alone. The infantry line could be a strong push against expensive armies, but against civs with strong counter-infantry bonus in their units, well is like see the sea waves crashing against the rocks.

I'm not saying that they're weak. I'm saying that they can win when are used correctly and that they can be defeated using the right strategy.