Talk:Slavs/@comment-2A00:F41:7012:5539:41F8:B6AC:C5F4:B4AD-20190817090449

So, some things to say:

To the Poles whining that there is no proper representation of their nation in the game: stop it. I know that you really want to see your civilization in game, but do not spoil others the joy of the game. You can anytime just switch to another game that has a better representation of your history. You can wait for the creators of the game to add it (but I wouldn't count on it, as during the development of the Definitive Edition it was said, that there will be no further civilizations added). You can also anytime download a mod with your civilization. At least we have Slavs and some AI names include names of Polish kings too.

Now, to the opposite side: stop the hate. Never neglect the history of a different country. I really understand that you are annoyed with the whining Poles, but do not disregard a whole nation and it's history by saying "poles suck and just understand that you have dump history" as it can be read in the rest of comments below. The gaming community is no place for hate propaganda no matter from which side does it come from. I think that the Poles are especially that upset because they see, that there is, for example, a Cuman civilization announced - probably most people never ever heard of them - but there is no proper Polish civilization.

Why do not we have a substantive discussion about hypothetical adding new civilization?

Pros: - better history accuracy - more possibilities for making special maps like "Battles of the Conquerors/Forgotten", for example a map named "Grunwald 1410" (- the largest battle of the Middle Ages) - more civilizations to pick and maybe some other

Cons: - it's hard to come up with new ideas for civilization bonuses - then we would have to balance the gameplay once again - "Slavs" will have to change name to for example "Russians" - when we add Poland, then what about Bohemia?

To sum it up for those who don't want to read all this above: Spreading hate is BAD, Nationalism and any other way to politicise the game is BAD, Neglecting history is BAD, Having a substantive discussion is GOOD, respect to others is GOOD, and finally, just having fun playing the game is the BEST

Don't politicise the game

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