Talk:Cuirassier/@comment-69.71.39.141-20111218035251/@comment-105.236.254.198-20140729154603

Also the Post Imperial Dutch Halberdier (Imperial with all upgrades and upgrade cards) will beat these easily with enough mass value for money wise (60 Post Imperial Dutch Helberds vs 30 Post Imperial Cuirassers = 26-30 PI Helberds (injured) vs no horsies). As long as the Dutch troops have double the mass they will win (also Dutch have 30 extra pop to negate the better French skirms).

The Veteran Dutch Halberd also does pretty well against them with and infantry HP or attack card, you should never have to fight in Imperial as Dutch but in treaty games VS France YOU ARE THE ONLY team other then Germany that can outplay a noob Imperial horse rush with some ease (some guys say pike from Spain can do the trick but although the pike will beat them you have to make a lot of pike to counter the French and they can mow pike down with skirms).