User talk:Narve

Age of Empires Online
I am about to start the Golden Punchbowl, familiarize myself with it and see if I can beat it. If I figure it out I will let you know how to do it solo, or help you in co-op now that I know how to cut off the virus protection programs firewall. Mictlantecuhtli (talk) 19:57, July 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's freaking tough. The big thing is to secure and mine the three gold veins north of your starting position, so start off with 3 on food, 2 on wood then train 2-4 for stone (and then everything on food). You need at least 4-5 towers and around 8 spearmen (divided into two groups of 4). Place the small spear groups where they will be targeted before the villagers. Around the 8-9 minute mark switch all villagers (should have around 25+) to gold. You'll need one of the economy priests on the storehouse and town center, I don't think it is possible to gather 5k and take out the enemy (even if you had epics and rare gear) and I didn't bother grabbing the treasures since you can just farm treasures somewhere else (grab treasures, restart to farm chests). The whole Nubian expedition looks to be nothing but time trials with very limited resources at your disposal. It might be easier if we co-op the whole damn thing, because it took me three tries to get the golden punchbowl completed and I was only able to focus on the gold mining, I couldn't do anything else because of the enemy starting off with such a better eco and there being two of them on the map. If we each get a town center, etc you could focus on the gold I could focus on attacking the enemy. Mictlantecuhtli (talk) 20:48, July 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. One quick point though: if we're going to do this, I'd prefer it if we gamed a bit earlier in the day. When I write this, it's 5 PM in North Carolina... and 11 PM in Norway, where I am. Bit late to start a game of Age Online. I don't know when you get off work/school/whatever it is you do, or if you're on vacation (I am), but if that's a problem, we could perhaps play weekends? I can play at night, if that's what's needed, but I'd rather not sleep away the summer days (we're not spoiled for sunshine up here).Narve (talk) 20:56, July 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm a high functioning schizophrenic, I don't work but draw disability and sell crops at the farmer's market. Just let me know what time est I need to be around and I will alter my sleep cycle. The challenge to destroy a fortress in diminishing bits of time (15, 13, etc minutes) is pretty easy since it starts you with 100k of each resource but stone in case you beat the punchbowl without me. That same map can complete the ivory tusk quest and get you 7/10 crocs for the hunter quest so leave it running after the fortress drops to work on those quests. I am not going to complete the next step (13 minutes), because I intend to use it to farm elephants for ivory since that is repeatable and the challenge isn't. Anyway, my Egyptians bugged out and I can't go to Mycenae for crafting material recipes I have to buy them as Greeks and mail them to myself and pick them up when online as Egypt to build stuff. Can you check and see if it's the same for your Egyptian civ before I report it as a bug? Maybe it is a feature of Egypt and not a bug if you can't visit Mycenae either. Also Egypt isn't good for pvp from what I have been reading, because elephants take up so much pop and can be converted easily by the enemy forcing you to use their underwhelming infantry and cavalry. Mictlantecuhtli (talk) 22:35, July 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * From what I can tell, Mycenae is the Greek-only city, with the Nubian expansion being the place for Egyptians to buy recipes. Try it.
 * I've considering switching to Greek or Celt, a bit bored by the Egyptians, but the problem there is that I'll be back at lower levels. But the PVP isn't really much of an issue at this point, since we're playing WITH each other, rather than against. But yes, apart from their elephants, their units are pretty bad.
 * I don't know when you work for the crop selling thing. Are you terribly busy between, say, noon and three o'clock (PM)? That'll be six o'clock to 9 PM here. What do you think?Narve (talk) 06:10, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nope not busy at all if you're still around. It'll be another day or so before the plants will be ready again. I am up to a lvl 8 or 9 Greek city, they actually seem easier to use than the Egyptians due to better infantry and cavalry. Don't need elephants to bust through turtle shells, can just use Hoplites and they have really strong buildings. Their fortresses also have a higher fire rate than Egyptian forts. Also, here is the link to my full Nubian Expanse repeatable quest observations. Mictlantecuhtli (talk) 15:49, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I might be a bit late logging in today. I will be online at 12:30pm est. Mictlantecuhtli (talk) 15:23, July 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Lost track of the time talking to a few people. I am logging in now, maybe they fixed the connection problems people were having. Mictlantecuhtli (talk) 16:41, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Redirects
No offense, did you know that a redirect page is made with #REDIRECT and not REDIRECT, otherwise the redirection page won't work. BoazMoerman (talk) 16:52, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

...Ah, should have checked that better. Thanks, won't do it again.Narve (talk) 18:19, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Camels
If you know why the Mongols have access to camels, then explain why in the trivia of the Camel's article.


 * The reason the Mongols have camels, is the same reason that the Chinese do: there are Bactrian camels living in the Gobi desert. But there's no reason to put that in the article, because it's not very relevant. And sign your comments.Narve (talk) 13:33, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

General Info
Just adding in stuff, improving the wiki. Sorry to disagree with you about the Bombard Cannons but A) Hand Cannoneers and Bombard Cannons each appear in the same civs as each other and B) They WERE in Kyoto, a level where you control Japanese. Any, feel free to add in which civs things are unavaliable to for other buildings and units if you'd kindly. 122.109.39.217 07:58, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

"improving the wiki" False information doesn't improve the wiki, it devalues it.

"Hand Cannoneers and Bombard Cannons each appear in the same civs as each other", No, they don't. Not all the time. They're seperate units, and sometimes they don't appear in the same civ.

"They WERE in Kyoto, a level where you control Japanese" Yes, but that still doesn't meant that the Japanese can train them - and they didn't train them, they FOUND them. The Mongols have access to Bombard Cannons in "Into China", but they can't train them. The Aztecs find both Bombard Cannons and Tarkans in "The Boiling Lake", but can't train either of them.

This is easy to check, either through the in-game Tech Tree, or by trial and error - and if you play as Japanese, build an Archery Range and a Siege Workshop, and research Chemistry, you'll see that they can train Hand Cannoneers, but not Bombard Cannons.Narve (talk) 09:04, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

I should add: Your idea of adding civs for other units, buildings and techs is good. I'll do that.Narve (talk) 09:26, August 15, 2012 (UTC)