Talk:Italians/@comment-67.52.238.203-20161201181250

I seem to do fine with them on land. Combining geno xbow with hand cannoners and skirmishers will deal with any problem cept onagers, full blacksmith cavaliers and hussars for that.

Only problem i ran into was portugeuse and you can add conditierro to the lineup for them.

Although if you get rushed, you have a lot of issues.

Any civ who can stand up to imperial age turks should be fine on land.