User talk:DunBanner

Hi, welcome to Age of Empires! Thanks for your edit to the War Elephant page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- KazMx (Talk) 11:59, May 12, 2009

(Age of Empires 2)
Thanks for moving the pages, that saves me from needing to do that :)

Re:Skin Change
Thanks for informing me, I think that this wiki should have a different skin though. Oh well, that can be determined at a later time.

Wiki
Hello !mmortal. This Wiki is getting more and more active by the day, would you mind doing some more editing? If yes, thanks. Also, do you play AOE3? If so, I would love to play with or against you >:). Thanks, 21:21, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply, I look forward to the day when I can play you online :) Ajraddatz  (talk | contribs) 13:44, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Heroes
Haha, you are right. Thanks. Oh, congrats on 300 edits by the way :) Ajraddatz(Talk - Bot talk) 03:43, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Recent Changes Text
I recently added text above the Recent Changes, but it is a little.. lacking. Any thoughts? The MediaWiki file can be found here, but you can't edit it (I want a user right so that users can edit the MediaWiki files), so please leave any changes you want on either it's talk page, or mine. Thanks, 04:53, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Rollback
Congrats, and thanks for all of your improvements here! I have granted you rollback rights, hopefully it will help someday with anti-vandalism. I hope to expand the right to also include moving files and suppressing redirects. Thanks again, Ajraddatz Talk 04:36, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

AoM Content
Please see Forum:Age_of_Mythology_Content, and vote in it. Thanks, and hope to see you around here some more! Ajraddatz Talk 03:35, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, and sorry for asking so many questions ;), do you like the new skin? If nothing has changed go into your prefs and select "Let admins override my choice" in the skins section. Thanks, Ajraddatz Talk 03:54, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Admin
Hey !mmortal, would you like to be an administrator here? Then you wouldn't be affected by rate limits, delete stuff, etc. Ajraddatz Talk 01:19, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done :) Ajraddatz Talk 01:49, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Library Titles
Ok, thanks, I only called them that because it is from the DS version of the game. Is it possible you could move them to their rightful place? It would be appreciated, as I am very buy creating the other documents for the library and i really need to get thm up as soon as posible so that it's out of th way. Thanks. Dinomino21 17:42, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

not a problem! the only thing i have full on changed was the British page. That page is currently something that i am working on and am not yet done, i thought that i posted on it that it was under consruction but i may be wrong. Other then that i edited the ashigaru page. All of the history stuff for that page i believe was mentioned in the one that i put up so i replaced that with my version as it had paragraphs to make it easier to read. I did in fact keep what was previously written about the cards and upgrades that you can get for the ashigaru which i put with the skirmish and multiplayer section.

Ill try to work on my caps and grammar, i dont usually catch my mistakes because there is usually a spell check so im going to have to pay a little more attention this time arond!

Btw, i made the Age of Empires III: Fort and Fort Wagon page, i know there is a for page but i did this because the info on that page was outdated and slightly incorrect. As i result i put in a sugguestion to delete it. I also did it because i wanted to add "Age of Empires III" before the title, everything seems to be organized that way so i was just trying to help with the organization.
 * In cases like that, you are free to update the information. Thanks for all of your work here! 04:03, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

AOEAOM123, Reporting for duty.
Hey thanks for letting me on here, i promise i will help out as best as i can by making comments, editing and adding articles, and researching great information about the game and information aqquatent to the game.

-- AOEAOM123

Templates?
Hi, !mmortal, I'll try to fix some internal links, but I feel that many templates and images are inexisting, and that they should be there. I know nothing about that (templates). Anybody, help!

My new account
Hi Mr !mmortal, it is still me AOEAOM123, i lost my account and my email broke. So, i created a new account so i may continue to serve. Please message back to me if you understand.

When moving pages
Be sure to go back to the old address of the page and click "What links here?", going through the list of pages and redirecting their links to the new page address instead of the redirect page. Mictlantecuhtli 17:54, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Age of Empires III
Shouldn't we have a Age of Empires link thingy on the sidebar??

Thanks Happychickenvermin 04:11, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re:New Skin
I don't like it either, but I guess we'll need to adapt. I'm going to customise it a bit over the weekend in terms of the look, but I don't know if that will even make it better. As for the articles, I'm not sure what we can do for those. :/ 13:25, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I hate the fact the skin thing keeps messing up all sub wiki sites each time they tinker with it (ME2, DAO, AoE3, Fable, etc). It drives me crazy not being able to edit when I actually have time. Mictlantecuhtli 17:56, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Mictlantecuhtli running amok
Hey !mmortal, it's me again. I've once contacted you via IRC to restore a mod article (The Ancient Age) which had been deleted by Mictlantecuhtli. Unfortunately it seems that no one has talked to him about "deleting mod articles". That's disappointing. He deleted another mod article and this time it just couldn't be worse, he deleted the Napoleonic Era article. Not enough of damage provided, it seems that he had deleted the article already once in time, but that you restored it afterwards. Now the reason is the same and I have the impression that his actions are not for the benefit of the wiki in the first line, but that he's acting after his own imagination of how this wiki should be. Seriously, I'm really doubting he's aware of the mantra that wikis live by participation and that the contributors decide what to contribute since the people and not just a few admins make the scene.

His acting is very annoying and an offense for the whole modding scene. We'd really like to contribute something to the wiki, because we share the vision of a great AoE database, but we will not do that under these circumstances. Tilanus C. 04:05, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * No professional grade wiki allows unofficial mods to be posted as actual articles. Dragon Age, Neverwinter Nights, etc, etc all frown upon fan made mods leaving blog posts and user pages. I don't know where you got the idea from as no community I have ever participated in has allowed it. The quality can not be guaranteed, neither can the safety of the files people are directed to download. For that reason its always been preferable to have people post them in blogs or on user pages so the player doesn't associate the files with the actual wiki and assume they are safe to use based on the wiki's reputation. Mictlantecuhtli 12:36, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * //#1
 * You simply ignore or don't see the potential that it has and obviously you know nothing about mods (mods are always unofficial). This has nothing to do with the "professional wiki standards" bla bla. You should know that standards can be enhanced and this is something a wiki should not only allow, but also support. It's in their own interest! I'm sorry for all the other poor gaming wikis you mentioned, they really miss something that distinguishes them from a normal game manual. Seriously, a wiki should not just become a more detailed repition of game manuals. You need to offer more and focus on things that are not mentioned anywhere else and marked as "official". Otherwise, what's the point?
 * A wiki is a collection of knowledge and you hopefully know that there is neither good nor bad knowledge. So what is the argument against mods being mentioned in wikis? I really think you lack the basic understanding of what the so the high valued mechanism of wikis is.
 * //#2
 * //#2
 * //#2


 * Another point: Quality can be guaranteed by regularly controlling the articles on sources, style and credibility. That's what admins and mods are mainly supposed to do in a wiki, consequently providing clear and equal criterions of quality so that the contributing people (!), who know what is or might be relevant, know the standards. Thus it's not your task to decide about what is relevant content or not, cause this is something that the contributors  decide about! You're neither the AoE3 scene nor the community, so you just can't know what is relevant.


 * //#3
 * You do not only ignore the amount of work that has been put into an article, you even delete them instantly and allow no debate about your decisions, they're absolute for all members and you think they're perfect. I really wondered how you even ignored decisions of other mods/admins and delete mod articles a second and third time. Try to see it from the POV of a contributor and guess how that feels. This is censorship, paternalism and selection. This is a wiki man, not your personal homepage. If you want only a selection of content and full control, do a homepage, don't do a wiki.
 * //#4
 * //#4


 * Furthermore, a wiki can't have no bias, it's the neutral base on which upon the content grows like a plant. So your talking and fear about mods being associated with the wiki's reputation is not only irrelevant, it's also illogical, cause a wiki can't have a reputation. Only the mods' and admins' decisions and actions can be in a good or bad repute.


 * //#5


 * For those inferior modding folks you have by far the worst reputation, people complain about you, refuse to help this wiki grow and want other people to boycot this wiki because they are getting mistreated by you. You can now hide behind your guidelines again and preach em, but be aware that this won't stop people from badmouthing you and sadly also the with-you-associated wiki. If the current game wiki policy is more important for you than the success of this wiki, then just continue deleting community-related content.


 * //#6


 * Open your eyes man, it's the  community  that makes a game interesting, so it's ridiculous and stupid to lock out the community in a wiki, which is the origin of all relevancy when talking about a game. This is 21th century, the contributors here don't work for you or the wiki, they write for the community's benefits. Tilanus C. 14:57, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * You are simply angry your pet project or liked mod lost some of its free advertising, no one else complains but unnamed anonymous ips that could easily be one person. I am done at this wiki, its essentially dead as it is and the quality is poor because there is no firm ruleset of behavior as all other popular and professional wikis have. Before you begin bad mouthing those other wikis perhaps you should look at the difference in quality compared to this wiki. People will always complain over admins because they don't agree with them, the idea that a few complaints represents the bulk of editors is ridiculous. I didn't intend to argue with you, your circular logic won't allow you to be reasonable because your desire for individual freedom is screaming from the back seat. If Immortal feels it should be restored again that is fine, I am done arguing with people who have never been part of a successful wikipedia. Mictlantecuhtli 15:09, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Haha, no way man. Contrary to you I do have  good  arguments while you simply don't even try to counter them in detail. Watch your answer, it's so short, there can be no references to my arguments and that just proves that you don't give a sh** about contributors. // I'm indeed angry, but because of your stubbornness. See, I really don't claim something that is misplaced or inappropriate here like .. wanting mod ads on a school bus or the daily news. Community-created content, i.e. mod (ALL mods, not just my lousy ones) deserve a place in an AoE3 wiki. You didn't even delete only mods in which I participated, but also other ones - and there are so few, because bad mods die rapidly. And if you furthermore look at the contributors and editors of mod articles, you'll see, that it's not solely my work, but that there are indeed more people who thought adding and improving this type of content is a good idea for the wiki. I'm well-connected in the modding scene, I know what they say about this wikia. You got so few complaints, because this wiki isn't well-known in the AoE3 scene, I don't know why, you either missed a few important forums or the necessary power for making ads.
 * And you're probably done at this wiki because you had no success at it, i.e. making it relevant and attractive to the community. It's a lil schizophrenic to say "I am done arguing with people who have never been part of a successful wikipedia" if your own wikia isn't successful either. The idea of making a wiki without including community content is a idea without no future. Tilanus C. 15:37, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Tilanus is right, this admin is completely idiotic. And why can't there be a page of a certain mod (Great mod)?≈Iliander≈

Bureaucrat rights
Hello, would you like bureaucrat rights? With them you'll be able to make other users admins via Special:UserRights. 02:01, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

New Project:Revolution
Please check Revolution, I hope I can count you in. 18:47, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Revamp
I think this wiki needs a major revamp (especially the Main Page).

We need a different Featured Article and for that new nominations which we currently lack.

We also need a new HBFS. Btw, what purpose does it serve?

We need more/new Trivia under the DYK heading.

We also need to eliminate those red links and just unlink the ones to impossible pages.

We need more pictures (Google Images is a good source e.g. Morgan Black AoE III).

We need a standard format for articles and users should cease referring to themselves on pages (such as "i think this is the right spelling".

We also need more active users and a page to link all User Accounts and Admin Accounts (We currently have a page called Users but only 1 link. The trouble is, nobody knows how to add a User page to a Category).

Thanks

Happychickenvermin

Hello
Hi there! I'm new here. I know a lot about wikis, Age of Mythology, and AoE II and III. Especially AoM though, because it's the only one on my computer at this time. I really like wikis, and this one looks great! I'm looking forward to helping out a lot in the future! --Hoodedwarbler12 14:12, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Your 2500th edit celebration
Just logged in at 9/26/11 & wanted to congratulate you for making your 2500th contribution to this wiki!

Piano41095 17:13, September 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks Piano, appreciate the nice gesture! !mmortal   talk  02:29, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Why do you squander the wiki by unimproving it?3groscod 11:59, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh.3groscod 23:03, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

I think there is a spam on the son of osiris page, the picture I added is not visible.3groscod 21:30, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for allowing the page I created, Trade Route, to remain on this wiki.3groscod 23:18, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Gaia was first then she gave birth to Oranos and married him. Then Gaia gave birth to Oceanus and Tethys, Cronos and Rhea. And with Cronos marring Rhea, Rhea Gave birth to Hades, Demeter, Poseidon, Hera, and Zeus. The Tians and the Gods are related.75.23.113.31 12:01, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

I have one thing to say: even though age of empires and age of mythology are differenent sets of games, they have alot in common, we should unify pages through the categories even if Trade cart (age of empires) or Ox caravan (age of mythology) do not come from the same game, they have the same basics.3groscod 23:16, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Heads-Up
Just a heads-up, main page ads are being turned on for this wiki. Because of this, I've made a change to the main page in order to avoid a placement conflict between the content and the adspace. Without this change, the ad would display on top of the current content, blocking it from users. Obviously, you are welcome to make further adjustments as you see fit - this is just a "quick-fix" to avoid a visual conflict. Please feel free to contact me on my my talk page if you have any questions, comments, or issues. Cheers! http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o297/SCOTIMUS76/siggy3.png  (talk) 12:57, October 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Not sure what you mean, there are no ads on that page to make any changes for.
 * http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o297/SCOTIMUS76/siggy3.png  (talk) 20:58, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Featured Article Debate 11/15/11
I put the Assyrians as a featured article since nobody opposed it for the last 4 months. If you object, please send me a message or create a new talk page. I also placed Roman Empires as a new candidate to be featured. Please voice your opinion!

--Piano41095 04:00, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Happy Black Friday!
Hey, Happy Black Friday & Late Thanksgiving! Hope you had a good one! Here are a few things that I would like to bring up...

Background Image
About the background image for the wiki, I have decided it would be easier if we stick to this background image, but if you can make it better by adding background images from Age of Empires 1 or 2, that would be great addition.

Promotion for LeeUnit92
I'm not a bureaucrat for this wiki, but there is one user in particular that I believe that deserves rollback rights. If you can, I would ask you to promote User:LeeUnit92 to rollback. I would promote him if I were a bureaucrat, but the ultimate decision rests upon you.

Thanks for reading!--Piano41095 02:16, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Troll
Just giving you a head's up there's some idiotic troll running around making nonsensical articles about the American Civil War I suggest you ban them (Not giving an order sorry if it sounds like I am) LeeUnit92 04:04, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

There's another troll making a bunch of profane comments on the Persians page here I've been trying to do my best to get him to be quiet but it seems I've only fed the fire and made it stronger. I don't know what this Wiki's policy on people cussing others out in the comments is but I think he should be banned. LeeUnit92 21:27, December 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Apologies for the late replay, I've been quite busy recently. He/she has been dealt with. !mmortal  talk  04:25, December 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately he/she seems to have come back under the username Infamousboy and is as profane and immature as ever. I'd rather not get involved this time so just giving you a heads up thanks. LeeUnit92 06:38, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Haha, the guys a fool, with Von Lettow assisting him in creating a new account or whatever, unfortunately he was/is unaware of the Admin tools I can utilise. !mmortal  talk  10:11, December 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Look, in future, if you encounter unacceptable user behavior, report it to any available admin immediately, thanks. !mmortal   talk  10:32, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

1850 Pages?
How did our wiki get 1850 pages that fast? I just logged in today and the last time I did, the wiki only had around 1817 pages. I have checked the Wiki Activity section and only a few pages are created. Could this be a glitch?

Hey !mmortal, I just created an account and um I dont mean to sound stupid but when I log off, were do I go to log myself back in?


 * Top right side of the page. Please sign your posts, thank you. !mmortal   talk  10:37, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hey !mmortal, you know that dude you blocked at the Persian page for profane comments, yeah well, I know him and I just wanted to ask if you could lower his time to be on block till more like Febuary 1st or something.Von Lettow-Vorbeck 03:03, December 24, 2011 (UTC) Von Lettow-Vorbeck.


 * No, he was blocked for multiple infractions, all of which culminated in the suspension of his editing privileges. !mmortal   talk  04:32, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Look I dont mean to sound like Im challenging your authority, but as a Administrator(on 2ndww wiki), I think its a little harsh, so he changed a guys profile, no one looks on there anyway. LeeUnit92 didnt do anything to shut the guy up and just pist him off more on purpose. In my opinion, LeeUnit started the fight but the guy did make the fight worse than it should have. But till late March, thats to much. That he/she is for starters a he and him and me are like family, and I think punishing him for having a "Verbal Rampage" (that is 10+ worse) is kinda stupid, but again it all rest upon you. Im not going into details, but lets just say this guy dosent like being accused, because hes been accused before on something deadly serious, and he was young, so he kinda cracks at that stuff. So just cut him a little slack thats all Im saying. Von Lettow-Vorbeck 05:40, December 24, 2011 (UTC)Von Lettow-Vorbeck

What was with bolding Multiple, I can readVon Lettow-Vorbeck 05:42, December 24, 2011 (UTC)Von Lettow-Vorbeck


 * We operate with different rules, and your Wiki has only begun its operations recently. He should have sought the assistance of an administrator, and vandalizing a user's profile page with slanderous material is a serious offence, by stating that in this particular circumstance it was alright, simply condones that sort of unacceptable behaviour. Are you also arguing that 'LeeUnit' himself should have engaged in more aggressive behaviour to stop the argument? He didn't and informed me of the editor's behaviour. This block should give him some time to cool off and calm down, having a history associated with an accusation does not change that.


 * I can understand his situation, but trying to convince me to reduce the block's duration would be a conflict of interest on your behalf as his associate. As a person with administrative responsibilities, we do not make any exceptions.


 * Why did I bold the term multiple? Not as a sign of contempt, but to stress the severity of his actions; persistent vandalism of a specific page, intimidating behaviour/harassment, and the impersonation of a supposed 'brother' in order to justify his attacks. Did you view his comments? They were laden with profanity and personal attacks. Other users should not have had to put up with it. I blocked him previously to give him time to calm down, but inflating the argument afterwards with accusations of McCarthyist ideologies in 'LeeUnit' and the subsequent vandalism of the user 'Brotherhood-overlord-6' when he suggested the removal of his editing privileges, pushed it far past the limits of my tolerance towards his actions and warranted the 3-month block.

!mmortal  talk  08:02, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Immortal I am not a anti Russian and dont want to kill them because I think they are Slavic I just dont like Communist.

Von Lettow-Vorbeck 02:31, December 25, 2011 (UTC)Von Lettow-VorbeckVon Lettow-Vorbeck 02:31, December 25, 2011 (UTC)sorry

For starters, he did not know about the editing privlidges thing and vandalize is a serious word, like spray painting a school or something. Also "I strike back hard against a grammar nazi, brain toss your ass in the air, Yahtzee" is just something he gotg from Epic Rap Battles Of History 16, not a personal attack, though I do acknowledge it was innapropriate. Now I am constantly getting annoyed by stuff latley so I rest my case. Thanks for atleast reading my comments and not just going "Screw you he is staying on block"Von Lettow-Vorbeck 02:39, December 25, 2011 (UTC)Von Lettow-Vorbeck and I do not think Russians are bad I just ment there Communism.

Hero Units
I just received Age of Empires II as a Christmas gift and the first thing I did was checking the Scenario Editor to fill out missing information for this wiki. Boy! Was I surprised! The Scenario Editor contains many more hero units that were never listed in this wiki. I was wondering if these heroes should be placed in separate pages or be merged to already existing articles such as the Monk Heroes I placed in one of the Monk section. Just here to hear your opinion (no pun intended).


 * ~Thanks for reading and Merry Christmas!
 * ~23:37 December 25, 2011