User talk:Narve/Archive 4

Lê Lợi & others Vietnamese
Hello Narve, I'm Lam, I'm Vietnamese. I have stop activities in here for a long time and return yesterday. I could upload or edit something anything I know for Wikia? (especially Vietnamese since this is my country). As a Vietnamese so I may know vocabulary easily. I also have an entreat hope you accept: I want to open a page named "Lê Lợi" (Le Loi in English) as I want AoE2 users/players know about my country hero? Just simply that :)

P.s: I can edit or contribution anything I can but worry about my English (I think so terrible T.T). Hope you or others could help me about that. Please answer me in my user page ;)

A thing about stubs
Hello, I noticed something odd in the stubs: they include the 13 AoEIII soundtracks, yet there is nothing else that can be written; the soundtracks themselves are already included to be played, and the wikia already mentions the ones they are preceded from. Would it be appropriate to remove these from stubs??

37.6.2.157 18:15, February 16, 2017 (UTC) A Fandom user


 * Probably. Just remove it from a couple of them and see if anyone protests.Narve (talk) 18:24, February 16, 2017 (UTC)

Envoy AoE 2
I noticed an anoy user created a page Envoy (Age of Empires II), Envoy AoE2???:

http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Envoy_(Age_of_Empires_II)#comm-37343

User:NguyenAnhLam

P.s: this user also created some pages such as Dinh Le and then comment Dinh Le, I'm really annoy


 * Yeah, I know about this guy. He returns to the wiki every once in a while, creating pages that contain nothing but the page title. At first, we tried to talk to him and tell him that there were better ways to contribute to the wiki - trying to find some way to get him to make useful contributions. In the end, I had to block him to try to get him to communicate. Now, we just hand out longer and longer blocks every time he returns.Narve (talk) 14:11, February 19, 2017 (UTC)

Age of Empires II The Forgotten
I just heard you guys mentioned buy AoE 2 TF from Stream, where must pay. You know any links to download it? (I just have Forgotten Empires mod)

P.s: excuse me for bother you. Also sorry if my "terrible" English make you angry

Lam


 * You can download The Forgotten here, but you'll need the Steam version of AoE II to play it. If you don't have that, I recommend buying the bundle (containing AoE II and all expansions) here.Narve (talk) 14:11, February 19, 2017 (UTC)

Bots
Hi Narve,

Much of the information on bots can be found here. People like me tend to use AutoWikiaBrowser (AWB). Its really simple to set up compared to other bots, just follow their instructions for AWB. You will also need community approval, but because this a small wiki and it only has 1 active bot at this moment, you have my support. After that, you just contact Wikia Staff members like this guy to flag the bot for you.

Age of Mythology additions
Hello again Narve! As I was viewing some AoM pages, I wondered whether it would be appropriate or not to add all AoM non-Hero Campaign units and unique objects (such as the Tamarisk Tree and the Folstag Flag Bearer) to a new category, or to include them in their respective campaign's categories.

By the way, I would like to ask you a favor; can you please add some information about the rest of the Tale of the Dragon huntables (like you did in the Duck page), and if possible, some stats for new units, included in the stubs? Kran96 (talk) 16:45, February 24, 2017 (UTC)Kran96


 * The Fall of the Trident category only contains scenarios (like its description states). This is the case for all campaign categories, and that's the way it's going to stay, unless someone manages to get consensus for a change.
 * If you want to create a new category for campaign units and unique objects, you should still start a discussion to learn whether people agree, and what it should be called.
 * I'll add some info for the huntables later, and take a look at the stubs category. Nice work on that, by the way.Narve (talk) 11:05, February 25, 2017 (UTC)

Cut Content
Many days, I found some informations for the page Cut Content, I would upload them (as much as possible I can), I just hope you (or other users) could support me for better (I berated by people that bad English and grammars T^T). Also excuse me if something have redundant (such as add categories for Genitour you just fixed).

P.s: about the Knight, I read that their main weapon was the lance. This really refer to the Frankish Paladin (I think this was their beta model)? Hope you answer me on my talk page

Lam

Rollback Request
I am here to request to be granted Rollback rights, as another active user (should be more active in the next 10-12 days) that isn't a mod, admin, sysop, etc, and a "just in case" active measure to prevent vandalism, which although rare, may need to be combated in the future due to this ever expanding wikia.

Thanks in advance, Cheers

Now I am become Death, The Destroyer of Worlds (talk) 03:04, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Requesting User Rights Page
Hi Narve,

I just fixed that requesting user rights page here. Folks will now be able to request rights on that page now. It should be easy to use. Let me know what you think.

AoE 3 melee animations
Hello Narve, I'm played AoE2 more than AoE3 but I'm still have some knowledges about AoE3:

Did you noticed that almost of ranged infantry (such as Eagle Runner Knights or Longbowmen) have ranged attack and when enemies approach them, they change to melee attack & use melee animation instead but I find that still have some ranged infantry didn't have melee animation such as Regenado, Pistolero, Highwayman,... (I don't remember all of them) but they actually do melee damage even though they are still be seen "firing" at the enemies?

NguyenAnhLam (talk) 03:05, March 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * I hadn't thought about that before, but you're right.Narve (talk) 20:25, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

​​trouble with infoboxes
I have been looking for links to disambiguous page and I found a link that I cann't edit. It concerns the pages like Wokou Ronin, stradiot, Mameluke (Age of Empires III) and Orangutan

. If you look in the infoboxes, there is a mercenaries link, which links to the disambuguous pages.. I think it should link to the correstponding aoe3 page, but I don't know how to fix that. Could you fix this? Lord Vipertooth (talk) 21:30, March 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I've fixed those pages now.Narve (talk) 19:47, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Campaigns AoE3
We have many campaign pages for AoE2 but why about the campaigns in AoE3 are very few? I thought we have a lot of pages about those campaigns. Did you think about create some pages?

NguyenAnhLam (talk) 03:40, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

There's no reason they haven't been created, it's just that no one has done it yet.Narve (talk) 06:56, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

AOE Trial Version First Punic War
Hi Narve. I used your link to download the First Punic War Campaign. I am not very tech savvy. Can you please explain what version of AOE I would need and how to use the file. I have a windows 10 laptop. Thanks.

110.149.143.243 08:53, May 18, 2017 (UTC)Sahil.


 * You need to have Rise of Rome installed to use the files. Locate the "Age of Empires" folder on your disk, and open the "campaign" folder. Unzip the files here. Then, start the game, and click "Single Player", then "Campaign". The demo campaigns will be listed with the regular campaigns.Narve (talk) 18:07, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

Audio in infoboxes
Hi Narve,

I was wondering if you'd be ok with me adding the theme of every Age of Empires II civilization to their infoboxes through an audio player. I've made a "mock-up" here, but to fix the issue where the audio player expands the infobox, an administrator will have to add some CSS to your Mediawiki:Wikia.css page. Hope to hear from you, —CarloV3r (talk) 16:42, June 1, 2017 (UTC)


 * That seems like a good idea, but if you want feedback, you should start a blog post or start a discussion in the comments.Narve (talk) 19:27, June 1, 2017 (UTC)


 * Do I need community approval?—CarloV3r (talk) 20:06, June 1, 2017 (UTC)


 * I think adding this functionality would definitely benefit the wiki, especially when it comes to the in-game dialogue language section of the civilizations page where the text representing vocal dialogue may not be entirely accurate. If you'd like, we can grant you temporary administrative rights for about 1 week by requesting it here. That page will also give others a chance to voice their own opinion.
 * I'm not entirely sure if giving me administrative rights will be necessary. The only thing that needs to happen is adding this to your wiki's wikia.css. Uploading OGG files & adding them to infoboxes can be done without administrative rights.—CarloV3r (talk) 11:00, June 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not entirely sure if giving me administrative rights will be necessary. The only thing that needs to happen is adding this to your wiki's wikia.css. Uploading OGG files & adding them to infoboxes can be done without administrative rights.—CarloV3r (talk) 11:00, June 5, 2017 (UTC)

Articles on Trees
Should we name all the tree and plants pages beginning with the word tree. An example is Tree-Borneo, Tree-Deccan, and all the other maps Balochistan (talk) 03:54, July 3, 2017 (UTC)Balochistan
 * I don't know.Narve (talk) 18:42, July 3, 2017 (UTC)
 * I prefer having the articles on trees using the same format for units that appear in multiple versions of the game series. For example, a tree named Redwood should be Redwood (Tree). This makes searching for a type of tree easier, rather than having to look through every tree on the search list. However, this naming scheme should only be used if the name Redwood also refers to another object in the game, usually the name of the map.

So should I change the tree page titles back to Tree-. Thats what i am doing right nowBalochistan (talk) 00:56, July 10, 2017 (UTC)Balochistan

I seen you have removed the history page from the map Ozarks, I know the map does not have an in game history but why did you delete it? It was pretty accurate, I surfed through wikipedia and online website about Ozark national park. I thought the history was pretty straight forward with no opinions or bias.Balochistan (talk) 01:48, July 20, 2017 (UTC)Balochistan


 * Because it wasn't from the game or the manual. I could just have removed the quote tags, but I don't think the wiki should have unofficial history sections.Narve (talk) 05:28, July 20, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Fishing Ships+Traps
Re; Fish Traps + Fishing ships.

The difference is that villagers have other purposes besides fishing. Villagers can be retasked elsewhere, while Fishing Ships only can fish, so it's relevant to include the price of the fishing ship. Especially since fish traps have so much more food you will usually only build one of them and then delete the fishing ship.

Looking at the current information someone might think it would be worth it even without any fish available when that's very untrue.

Basically I was wondering what the answer was and rather than having it conveniently available on the wiki I had to go figure it out myself. Even if it's not in that specific location it should be somewhere.

24.59.251.152 07:21, September 3, 2017 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, I see your point. I'll revert my edit.Narve (talk) 07:24, September 3, 2017 (UTC)

Icon Pictures/Potraits
Hello Narve,

I came here to discuss about something regarding icon pictures. A user by the Nick3069 has been replacing multiple icon pictures with his own. I understand he is trying to help the pictures but some of them are unecessary, for example he removed my Indian Irregular piture with his own and it was posted in the gallery. He also removed some of your icon pictures such as the Orangutan, Rhinoceros , and other wildlife pages. What is your take on it, i feel he needs to understand that its not just his wiki. First of all, there is no official size potrait for Age of empires units, not all potraits are 128px by 128px. Next, wiki is a place where every one contributes, and replacing someones icon picture over the others makes the original person angry. If the icon picture is not that overly sized, than why change it? Its a wiki for damns sake not a professional website. What is your take on this?Balochistan (talk) 16:59, September 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * I think Nick3069 is doing an excellent job. He's uploaded some high-quality images, that (as far as I can tell) always look much better than the ones he's replacing.
 * As for "replacing someones icon picture over the others makes the original person angry" - if you're angry that someone's replacing your pictures with better ones, you don't have the right wiki mentality. Wikis are built by cooperation and collaboration, which often means editing text that someone else has written, or replacing pictures that someone else has uploaded. You yourself have replaced several of User:BoazMoerman's pictures, like the Mansabdar ones.
 * Look at the before-and-after Orangutan images - that's an obvious improvement, and if I had noticed it, I would have thanked him at the time.
 * And if you have a problem with Nick3069's editing, it's usually better to try to talk to him first (politely and civilly, of course), and see if you can come to some agreement.Narve (talk) 17:35, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

Balochistan's Promotion
I noticed that you left a reply indicating suspicious activity & possible connection between GajaMada & Balochistan here & here. I have additional evidence regarding the relationship between the two accounts: image warring with Nick3069. This is indicated here on the horse page & here on the riderless elephant page. GajaMada soon joins in on the horse page & fixed Balochistan's mistake as if nothing happened and at one point, continued to edit war with Nick here by replacing Nick's images with a lower quality one. Do you think these activities warrants a sockpuppet investigation between GajaMada & Balochistan? Also, Balochistan is requesting Rollback rights, not Moderator rights.
 * I also investigated a little into the topic. There's another hint: Special:Contributions/24.13.160.179. The unregistered user did some editing, then stopped one day before User:Balochistan was created (June 15/16 2017), then magically answered on the already doubtful Gaja Mada's blog post about 5 minutes after the blog post's creation ( September 4 03:36/03:42 after 2 and a half month of inactivity), once against demotion and once in favor of it (same IP). Seems highly suspicious to me, smells of scheming and manipulation. If these accusations prove to be true, I'm strongly against Balochistan's promotion. Blappp (talk) 22:53, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * I have removed my support & contacted a CheckUser in light of this incriminating evidence.

If the CheckUser is correct about the relationship between the 3 users, we'll enforce an indefinite block on GajaMada & a 1 month block on 24.13.160.179. For Balochistan, I guess we have no choice but to block the user. Most wikis would enforce an indefinite block for such a serious offense, but I think we should give Balochistan a chance even if the investigation is successful due to his past contributions. I think a minimum block of 1 month & a maximum block of 6 months would suffice, but I still think we should let others vote for the block since I know folks like DunBanner who are far more strict than myself when it comes to blocking certain individuals such as here & here.

If the investigation is not successful, we'll just remove Balochistan's request for Rollback. Whether or not Balochistan still deserves a block will be up to the community to decide. I'll create a blog to inform everyone once the results are in.


 * I admit it, it was me. I used sockpuppetry. This is balochistan. 66.158.46.24. I am using high school ip adress. I am guilty for what I did and am ready for whatever conssequences. However, I dont believe my offense was extremley serious. I technically did not vandalize wiki, I used revert buttons and I did at first admit Gaja Mada(check the user page history). I know what i did was wrong, but how was my account harassing or bullying someone. I accused someone but did not call then names, insult, or preach hatred. Also how is it suckpuppetry if you did not ask me if I was Balochistan, I could have said yes. Also IndusValley2 I no longer use because I forgot the password, you can block me. But this wiki will be less active Also if you ban this IP adress, the whole high school which consists of 3000 students. Will not be able to edit. 19:00, September 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, you & your other accounts did not vandalize the wiki. This is why I did not block them immediately. However, sockpuppetry is a serious offense that is heavily despised & scorned on throughout Wikia, & perpetrators often receive an indefinite block without warning. Consequently, this wiki is no exception. Fortunately, due to your past contributions, I have decided that the main account, Balochistan, will not be blocked indefinitely like other perpetrators & would likely receive a much shorter block duration even if the investigation is successful which is different from most wikis, so consider yourself lucky. However, the way you used GajaMada was disruptive. That blog post created by GajaMada sounds like someone impersonating an admin who would abuse their admin tools by demoting someone at the sleight of hand. If you were to do the same thing on other wikis like the Game of Thrones Wiki, Candy Crush Wiki or Avatar Wiki, I would guarantee you that GajaMada & other related accounts would be blocked indefinitely much sooner, even without the need for a CheckUser. The same goes with your interaction with Nick3069 and your edit war with that user, which could have been handled better. I don't want to dwell on this further & compare this wiki to other wikis, but whatever has happened, happened.

The IP address you are currently using has no history of disruptive activity, so a block for that user will be unnecessary as of this posting. The same goes with your previous account, IndusValley2. There is no point of any investigation between these 2 accounts I mentioned even if they are related. However, I strongly advise you to stop using 66.158.46.24 & continue using your main account, Balochistan, since any wrong move initiated by the IP account you are currently using could potentially affect the 3000 other students who are using the same IP address. Balochistan is not blocked as of this posting & might not be blocked unless the results confirm that there is a correlation between GajaMada or 24.13.160.179, so you do have a small chance of saving yourself. Fair warning, I have encountered admins such as DunBanner who has a history of taking situations like this more seriously. If you don't believe this, check out the Block Record. Even if the investigation is not successful, you might hear something from other admins.


 * And how will this block affect me in the future for my account Balochistan. Will it exclude me from promotions forever? GajaMada (talk) 02:14, September 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * Nothing is guaranteed. It might be, it might not. It all depends on how others think of Balochistan. What I do know, is that if Balochistan does ever decide to request a user right, it will be much harder for that user to obtain that right since the user's trustworthiness will be lost. Trustworthines can be restored, but that by itself takes time. A lot of time.