Talk:Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition/@comment-26177661-20190616181050/@comment-2003:DB:F3D6:1BE1:9406:98D5:88DF:507-20190805120156

the "didn't have a state of their own" argument seems weird at best. (btw.: rather add the "Sámi" before the "fins"). Did the Portuguese have a state of their own during the medievals? - sure; athe the cusp to the renaisance they did, but that is a stretch. Did vietnamnese had any relevant civiliatory advancement back then? (do I care?) ... did the Huns? (rather belonging to the collaps of the classical period, not the medievals!) ... did the Tatars? (they didn't, as they did not exist in a sense; it was a collective name (by westerners; compare "sarazens") for a whole bunch of wild tribes/peoples, probably very distinct from one another; heck, for all it's worth, considering the region, one or more of those many may have been direct descendants of the hunic tribes!). Did sub-saharan africa ever have any civilization to speak of? (i) ... There are many so-so decisions in the game, that it often seems arbitrary for who they left out. E.g. the Polish

btw.: if you are desperate for finno-uguric people to conquer the world, you can still go by the hungarians...

// i) may as well throw that in there as an extra; people will get upset, anyway...