Talk:Mameluke (Age of Empires II)/@comment-44336955-20191106050750/@comment-2605:E000:CA89:AE00:AC9D:5248:46AD:B477-20191227102139

No, not at all. Heavy Cavalry Archer's aren't even a debate, their high frame delay makes it difficult to micro around a mameluke. They'll be slaughtered by Mameluke's even with better numbers 99.99% of the time. Back in the AoC days you could make that argument with Mangudai as they had 0 frame delay back then, but even then real game scenerios made it more of an even match than anything since players would often find ways to get close to the Mangudai. It was debatable though. Now it's not really that close. Go into the map editor if you're doubtful and pit 20 mams against 23 mangudai. You'll likely be slaughtered and at best you'll widdle them down to 2 or 3 mams.

Camel Archers are a different story though since Mams have no bonus against camels. Camel Archers destroy Mams pretty handilly with even resources.