User blog comment:Wildoneshelper/My proposed category tree (revised)/@comment-127769-20140211171100/@comment-3225604-20140214132215

1 yes all the games makes a clear difference betwen units and buildings, if you go to scenario editor, and then go to "place object tool" you can notice that, the game have a list of full items and specific lists of units, and buildings.

2.- I think holding a shield is not necesary a criteria for classify units in any game of the series. by your definition of " units that hold a shield" this category could have units that are not related except for its graph. beside of this, in all 4 games pierce armor and "shield" is most like a property of the units and not neccessary a unit type.

3.- if you want to classiffiy articles for this wiki and understand better why i am trying to improve the category system please first check out the other 3 games of the series.

4.- I told you in all this debate that gunpowder (gunners as you call them) units are a subcategory of ranged units, so what is your problem?. There is no such a thing that units that throw weapons to the enemy, (expcet the throwing axemans for Aoe II and Mythology, the mameluke from Aoe II, and Skirmishers in Aoe II) archers SHOOT arrows with the bow, Bloggunners SHOOT they dont throw their weapon, slingers shoot stones but not the sling. please instruct a little more yoursef about this issue of what a ranged weapon is. here is an article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranged_weapon

5.- wait for that categories when i finish the proyect ok, not all infantry fit in a specific category, many can´t. tha is why many articles have more categories ( for example swiss pikemen is a mercenary and a n infantry).

6.-, in the particular case of infantry and many subcategories is better to follow a more realistic definition, it is not a contradicction it is only a classification criteria.

7 . well just wait till I finish the proyect ok changing categories and relabling them take its time. thats why you dont navigate through subcategories that is why.

1. I see it now, thanks!

2. OK, maybe "shield" can be very broad. Therefore, what about a handheld shield? "Handheld shield units" would be exact?

3. Actually I don't have much time in the computer, so I may omit other games.

4. As far as I know, there are at least 10 of the units in Age of Empires 3 do throw weapons against the army. Tomahawk is one of the units I know that throws weapons at others. Mantlet and Huron Mantlet are another examples.

5. Done with that

6. Yes it does really cause confusion, especially in Age of Empires 3. Only siege units will fall into this ambiguity, so the headache won't be too severe. Basically, the in-game infantry matches with the real-definition infantry.

7. And do you ignore me?