Talk:Honfoglalás/@comment-2600:1003:B10C:D533:99ED:9D23:316C:DDE7-20180614025200/@comment-65.28.183.104-20190625064204

I was able to defeat the Bulgars through a long, painful battle of attrition with some 3,000 kills and a few dozen losses, most of the latter happening in the very end. Once in command of the transport ships, I split my two dozen knights into two ships and sent one to the northeastern most portion of the Bulgars' area and the other to their southern coast. It was annoying as once I attacked in the north, they sent units to counter me, so I deployed my other dozen knights in the south to destroy lumber camps there and repeated until I had three large hills cleared in the northeast so I could build unhindered.



With the hills cleared, I sent half a dozen villagers over and built ten castles, yes ten. I put four on the northern hill, two on the eastern one (which still had some trees on it) and four on the central one, all for the elevation bonus damage to attackers. I then garrisoned the westernmost six castles with a dozen cavalry archers each as well as the Kabar FU Heavy Cav archers for the garrison arrows and waited for an attack. It was a long battle of Elite Tarkan, Hussars, Halberdiers and Elite Skirmishers attacking my fortifications and lasted until the Bulgarians were out of resources, after which I deployed rams against their castles, using my knights to guard them. I had to rebuild some castles given the combination of being unable to build stone walls, the massive waves of attacks making repairing next to impossible and the Tarkan's both high pierce armor and bonus damage vs buildings making them hard to kill.



I should note that I had built a market at the northernmost point I could find near the Pechings camp (which I wiped out save for one house, town center and barracks) and had a dozen trade carts go en-route to the southwestern Kazar market, each bringing back 126 gold per run, while having a dozen of each farmers, lumberjacks and miners gathering resources while all this was going on (shift+click on the rebuild farm button was a lifesaver). In short, I had virtually infinite resources in everything save stone given the trade route and simply wore the Bulgars down by playing the Magyars as I play the Teutons, save stuck in the CA.



Regarding the comment about the Bulgarians themselves, I agree that they should have been a civilization given their power, sophistication and the role they played in the Siege of Constantinople in the early 8th century--one of the ten most important battles in history. 'Slavs' should have been split between Bulgars, Poles and Rus, the three largest, most powerful and longest-lived Slavic civilizations, representing the South, West and East Slavic sub-groups respectively. That sub-division was used for the Germanic civilizations, the Teutons (Germans and Dutch or 'Mainland Germans'), Vikings (Scandinavians), Bretons (English) and Goths (Old Eastern Germans).