Talk:Camel Archer/@comment-93.44.80.169-20151202224225

I played with those units and IMHO they are an unexpected u.n.d.e.r.a.t.e.d. unit and I'll tell you why.

1) they are as fast as cavalry archer, but with higher hit points and slightly faster rate of fire. This make them stronger than every other full powered standard cavalry archer overall except from mangudais and turkish horse archer (with their fantastic 100 HP after sipahi!)

2) they are not effective against cavalry archers.... but against EVERY CAVALRY UNIT!

I used a small group against franks and I destroyed their paladins and halberdiers with minimal loss! These makes them effective against virtually everything apart from foot archer with longer range

3) if used with Indians in your team they BENEFIT from their unique technology. As a result they are powerful siege units.

4) The unique technology makes them slightly overpowered in my opinion. Having fast unit that can hit-and-run and AT THE SAME TIME regenerate make the unit too strong...

If used properly and with the right team mates (i.e. Indians and eventually Huns and Japanese for the Navy) Berbers are slightly overpowered imho if they can start building a large army (like Huns in the Conquerors). They have strong cavalry, versatile Navy, the best camel units and can counter EVERY archer unit (onagers, bombard cannon, genitour that make skirmishers useless and camel archer). At least, they didn't give them Parthian Tactics - although it suit them a lot historically - or it would be excessive! lol