Talk:Chinese (Age of Empires III)/@comment-60.240.231.127-20100920011929/@comment-181.117.0.83-20161220013008

It's true that batch training is hard (and I don't like it either), however unit upgrades are only HALF the normal cost because of it (get to Exalted really easy and fast), AND you can get these instant upgrades with Confucious Gift, AND you can get pure unit of the type you upgraded trough Home City Shipments (which is also faster with the Gift). Another advantage related is that you don't need to build separate barracks and stable, and you can even train armies from the Castle (normally just artillery for the Japanese or India). So, the Chinese have potential, it's different from paying european but I get way better results with them than with any european civ in practice - Yes, even Treaty games (Western reforms + Old Han Army + the 20 pop + Repelling Volley makes their archaic army very strong - and if the enemy uses full artillery, get them with the Iron Flails and Meteor Hammer, which also have powerful cards upgrades such as Mongolian Scourge and Double-Faced armor)