Talk:War Wagon (Age of Empires II)/@comment-31256631-20170215212512

Onagers have 50 melee attack vs 3 melee armor = 47 damage per 6 sec. FU Elite War wagons have 200HP, requiring 5 shots to kill = 30sec

FU Elite war wagons have 13 ranged attack vs 7 pierce armor = 6 damage per 2.5 sec. Onagers have 60HP, dead in 10 shots = 25sec

The onager do outrange FU elite war wagon by 1 (2 with siege engineers), although that's not gonna save them with 5 seconds of difference above. Furthermore, War Wagons in formation naturally spread out enough the onagers rarely hit more than 1. This doesn't even account for micro as while War Wagons are bulky, they do have 1.2 movement speed.

So... while the siege onager can tip these scales, why is the rest of the mangonel line considered good again?