Talk:Mangudai/@comment-93.39.180.29-20150429174933/@comment-93.39.164.59-20150514080101

sure?

Mangudais will hit and run almost all your combo, let's try a combat and we'll see....

ALL infantry units are slower than mangudais (for example, huskarls have 1.05 speed vs 1.40 of mangudais)

Genoese crossbowman is the ONLY effective way to counter them together with a combo of siege onagers and war wagons. Before the forgotten, if you didn't have koreans. The only true EFFECTIVE WAY to counter them are:

1) Koreans (see up)

2) Chinese (combo of powered up chu ko nu and scorpions)

3) Italians (genoese crossbowmen)

4) Mayans (combo of powered up eagle warriors and plumed archers)

I can't see another effective way to kill without significant loss them. I can't say britons, because british archers haven't great accuracy, so if mangudais are running you cannot hit and run them with british foot archers effectivily.