Talk:Vietnamese/@comment-134.2.67.177-20161220094838/@comment-50.125.95.123-20161224191945

"RIP Britons and Mayans"

Except, Britons have an early eco bonus that helps them get the ball rolling, and the Mayans have an eco bonus that will keep them using natural resources far longer than anyone else. The Vietnamese lack an early bonus and thus will generally lose to an equal skill Britons or Mayans opponent outside of games that go to Trash War. Even then, 20% faster training time and 15% more resources are only slightly less valuable, in practice, than 20% more HP.

Sure, the Imperial Skirmisher upgrade kind of pushes them ahead, but it's not actually that large of an upgrade. It's actually functionally equivalent to the Atlatl upgrade, but available to the enitre team. (1 damage, 1 pierce armor, +1 damage to archers/cavarchers, vs 1 damage and 1 range).