Talk:Italians/@comment-24900905-20150816233103/@comment-24900905-20150817134704

This 15 % discount may be useful when player focuses on bombard cannos, but a lot of players prefer trebutchets(higher hp, higher attack, higher range, available for all civs). About Genoese crossbowman vs arbalest; You are right, they seem to be stronger, but they are more expensive and cost to upgrade archer to arbalest is much cheaper than elite geno crossbowmen. I didn't notice this cost to upgrade champions before, but if player focuses strongly on them, this may pay off. I'll try to play Italians a bit more, and I hope i will like it, but at this moment I find a lot of better civs.

Not going to offend anyone who likes Italians.