Talk:Mayans/@comment-186.151.61.133-20180312065249/@comment-79.164.176.2-20180429211037

Mayans are one of the strongest civs in FE. Their arbs are cheaper and can be used as seige engine. Their reses last longer. Their UU is awesome addition to their bulky EEW. The only civ they really struggle against are Goths.

And what about Vietnamese? Spotting enemies on start? Cool for rushes, but you have no eco bonuses to launch a rush. More HP for archers? They still die en masse to onagers, ballistas, knights. Free conscription? 150F/150G isn't that much in early imperial. Their UUs are cool, but both fills same niche: anti-missile missile troops. Paper money depends strongly on type of game. In 4vs4, it is awesome, but in duel it is a bs. One of the weakest civs in game.