Talk:Cumans/@comment-2A02:8108:8EC0:5659:2135:A408:7A3C:3F43-20200205160957/@comment-31246346-20200206165314

omg 11, try to counter a civ that can turtle from feudal with doubled HP palisades, who's at the same time trushing you or douching you with a 2nd tc while he booms behind in safe turtled eco (which was built at the same time that a normal tc), with the possibility of adding battering rams to destroy your own towers/tc ONLY to get to castle age where you have to fight a very speedy, powerful and cheap cavalry unit with range that basically counters pike-line and other melee units.

yeah, people is just lazy and is not creative enough to counter this shitty civ