Talk:Keshik (Age of Empires III)/@comment-190.231.136.170-20160115192343/@comment-73.107.103.171-20200109043047

It's more that Mongolian Army is completely useless. With Flamethrowers, they look useless on paper, and are pretty bad in practice, but if they're built as Black Flag Army they're pretty decent since the pure Arquebusiers sync well with the flamethrowers (100% dedicated anti-infantry).

Keshiks should be the same way with Mongolian Army, but guess what? Mongolian Army gives you 3x Keshik and 3x Hand Mortars. The Hand Mortars can be built directly at far higher efficiency since unlike Flamethrowers, Hand Mortars are actually good.

End result, Keshiks suck because they come out with pikes (Keshiks are pretty good for Dragoon class units, especially once the card comes into play, but the Keshiks deal damage slowly and refuse to die, while the pikes deal damage quickly, and die quickly as well. In other words, the Ming Army is horrid and so's the Mongolian Army, which is why Keshiks are just bad.)