Talk:Civilizations (Age of Empires II)/@comment-36.81.54.126-20170314160838/@comment-31031245-20170314172135

Yes, they have some awesome strengths (they are my favourite Rise of the Rajas civilization ^_^), but I find them far from undefeteable.

They can really become a wrecking ball on water maps (even on ones with moderate amounts of water), thanks to their great naval boom, but their land forces are another thing; while the trash THS really roll in trash wars, they will struggle much in early Imperial.

Elephants on the other hand are best used in early Castle, as they will miss on many important techs, such as Bloodlines, and can be crushed by Halberdiers. IMO, they are a top tier civilization on water maps, but an average one on landlocked maps (or ones with little water), as they lack land eco bonuses, and their ground forces are tricky to use.