Talk:Italians/Strategy/@comment-99.174.238.159-20160823053253/@comment-101.162.157.105-20170703113556

I think u r right about average early game, however in imperial/castle age they can practically go toe to toe with many civs. They have a good counter to almost every type of unit. Cheap bombards, hussars and hand cannoneers to counter infantry and siege. Condottieri to counter gunpowder. UU to counter cavalry and when paired with the vietnamese very good skirms. They also have very good trade and strong arbalests with pavise. Huskarls are the only real problem, however they can still pump out cheap hand cannoneers to counter them. When u think about it, their defense is very strong and can counter a lot of unit compositions. I think it wrong to assume they cant beat many civs on land